My name is Qu'ach Nhung. I was a Vietnamese Boat Person. HealthQuest ruined my life here in Australia.
I am Qu'ach Nhung. I came to Australia aged 12 with my parents to start a new life. On the way I saw unspeakable horrors, I saw people die and their bodies thrown into the sea. But it was no worse than what I had seen in Vietnam before the journey. I started school here with no English. I completed the H.S.C. and was able to attend the University of Sydney, where I completed a degree, the first person in my family to do so. My parents were so proud of me. By then my aunts, uncles and cousins were also here in Australia and they all came to my graduation.
I obtained employment with the Gaming and Racing Board. I enjoyed my job. But I have always had bad lungs and although smoking in the workplace was now illegal, my workmates continued to smoke all around me. My eyes would water and I would cough and have to go outside for fresh air. I asked them not to do this, but I think they did not like Vietnamese migrants and it seemed they would blow their smoke deliberately towards my work desk.
I approached the boss a number of times with my complaint. I knew what they were doing was illegal. They were supposed to go to the smoking room but they ignored the rule. The boss was not sympathetic. He said "We Aussies smoke - if you don't like it, you can go somewhere else."
I was a member of the union. I also approached the union. They did not help me. My lungs were getting worse. One day the boss called me into his office and said "Your work is not up to standard, we are referring you to the government medical officer." I thought this is good, I can explain him about the smoking and maybe something will be done.
I went to my appointment at HealthQuest. When I went in the doctor said "I am a psychiatrist." He made me fill out questionnaires and IQ tests. I said "Why do I have to do this?" He would not tell me. I tried to tell him that I was having trouble with the smoking. He was not interested. He asked me about my past, he made me recall horrors that I did not want to think about any more. He questioned me about Vietnam and about the journey to Australia until I was crying. Then he said I could go.
He did not listen to my lungs. He gave me no proper examination. I had a letter to say I was on sick leave and I was not allowed to go to work until the government medical officer said I was fit again.
Two weeks later a letter came in the mail. It was a certificate that stated that I was permanently unfit for work and had been medically retired. The certificate stated that I had schizophrenia. It was signed by Dr Helia Gapper and Dr Jagger. I was so shocked and ashamed. My family started to ask why I was not going to work. Eventually I had to tell them that I had been sacked. They wanted to know why and one day I told them, the government medical officer says I have schizophrenia. My parents were shocked. They said "But there is no schizophrenia in our family." I said "I do not have schizophrenia. I have been to my doctor. He said you have not got schizophrenia, this is a lie."
My parents thought that the government medical officer at HealthQuest must be the highest medical authority in the state. They thought that such an important person would never lie. They had respect for the office of chief medical officer. For years they believed I had schizophrenia. I was shunned by my family. I was unemployed. I could not find a job, because they wanted to know why I left my last job. What am I suppose to say, because I have schizophrenia?
One day I found an organization called Whistleblowers Australia in Balmain. I went to a meeting and I found out I was not the only one to be certified as mad by the government medical officer. I was so glad to know I was not the only one. I was advised to do a freedom of information request on my employee and HealthQuest file. I found out that the people that I worked with had written statements telling lies about me. They had given these false and malicious statements to HealthQuest. The boss had stated I was dangerous and had to be medically retired. How is it that public servants can get away with such lies? Why are they not brought to justice and imprisoned?
Now, years later, my family realize that Dr Gapper and Dr Jagger lied about me. I am employed managing some of my family's rental properties in Sydney. I have never married, because the whole Vietnamese community heard that I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and no girl would marry me for this reason. Mostly I cannot talk about these things, they are too distressing. For me, they are worse than what I went through in Vietnam. My family came here to make a peaceful life, and to give their children educational opportunities. I came here only to be subjected to corruption and lies that labelled me as mad for the rest of my life.
These doctors must be put on trial for what they have done to so many public employees. As far as I am concerned the Public Service Association are traitors, they knew what was being done to me and they did nothing to stop it and after I was wrongly diagnosed with schizophrenia, they said "We don't interfere in medical matters." They are just as corrupt as HealthQuest.
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Hmmmm... Hmmmp!
Good. Make you watch yourselves in future.
I hate unclear comments
Why won't racists be ever straight about their prejudices? Are they ashamed or what?
If your family want to trust
If your family want to trust some blank-face public service official rather than their own son then you should walk away from a family like that, find a new family, find people who will respect you for what you are.
If your family are so racist that they insist you marry a Vietnamese woman, and they have brought you up to think the same way then it is up to YOU to reject that sort of thinking. Make your own destiny, don't take what is handed to you. Find a woman who can think for herself (even if she doesn't happen to be the same race as your parents). Find an employer who is willing to evaluate you on your own merit.
Corruption is everywhere, it sux, it stinks, but still it will not go away. Look at the Middle East, look at Asia... those places have their own corruption. A few whistleblowers might win and some corrupt doctors might be made to face their crimes, but it takes lots and lots of more of that before you really make a difference. It takes people who are not going to swallow the establishment bullshit and people who are smart enough to decide for themselves the difference between right and wrong.
Good on you to show the guts to name the doctors that shafted you, getting this stuff out in public is the only way we are going to beat those bastards because enquiries behind closed doors just become part of the corrupt system.
Good on you for telling your story
How could you not feel deceived by the government of this cuntry?
Is that what they call the stick and the asylum?
What happened to the carrot?
If that's the way you're judged in a government workplace then we need a new umpire!
I claim innocence Mr Rocks!
This has history. You see 'Laurel' I believe it was, had a go at bleeding heart refugee activists. Apparently because the health quest people have had some grief in their lives with the system, it means that them's concerned about people being interned at Baxter are ' bleeding heart refugee activists' because we haven't dropped everything and signed up for the Health Quest cause.
I had a go about her attitudes. So then we got this post. So not racism at all. Just someone who says that perhaps the Health Quest lobby has crossed the line in some of the things they do. I also don't think they are exactly helping the whistle blower cause on by some of the stuff they come out with.
Sadly while the Health Quest people in the past have scooted through mostly without comment except from their own, with this post, it attracted racist remarks. Very sad.
Anyway got to go. Unlike Laurel, I've got to do some hands on stuff to help the refugees. (really, truly!)
What a moron
You and one or two others seem to have a deep seated hatred of people such as Laurel whose cause is not the same as yours. You seem to resent people from the anti-government medical office brigade having the nerve to come here and express their views. Where did Laurel ever have a go at refugee activists. You are a bloody liar, big mouth. You are just defaming her for no reason. You are also a liar when you say the healthquest people have scooted through other people's items without comment. You are a bloody fucking BIG liar there. Look back and see comments by gerard crewdson, Louise, Laurel, Lesley, Bob, Jan and so on, they have made comments on many of the stories here - far more comments than they made about their own healthquest stuff. Louise has made comments even on people's poetry. This group of 8-10 activists have done nothing but write intelligent and interesting news items and support others in their good causes as well. None of them have been rude or abusive like some of your type. You are a bloody fucking liar so why don't you fuck off and tell your stupid uneducated uniformed lies somewhere else dickhead. Yes this is a PERSONAL ATTACK because I am sick to death of reading YOUR personal attacks on OTHERS. You seem to think Indymedia is here for a SELECT GROUP which of course, includes you, moron. The healthquest people are not going away so why don't YOU fuck off.
personal attacks
the person behind the anonymous posting above is doing the refugee
cause no good by making such sneering personal attacks on people who do not share his/her single issue mentality
I too have been a victim of
I too have been a victim of Healthquest. They are set up to give out fake medical certificates so you can be medically discharged from your position. This is has been used by the Gov't to get rid of whistleblowers or anyone that lays a complaint in a gov't organisation.
The psychiatrist that you are sent to see only wants to know symptoms so they can can medically retire you. They do not want to know what happened, but of course they want to know your past, because then they try and pin the problem on your past and exonerate the govt department of any wrong doing. I can hear you saying "how can this be, it is wrong to do this?" The mighty dollar sways these so called independents. They get paid big dollars to write reports like this. One must wonder how they can sleep at night knowing what they have done to people in the past with their fake diagnosis's. Surely deep down these snakes must have a conscience about what they do.
For years the Workers compensation insurance companies have been doing the same thing. They also use so called independent assessors for their claims. Most of these assessors have little or no credibility in the courts, but the insurance companies still use them.
Anyone that has the balls to lay a complaint or speak up about corruption, beware as your appointment with Healthquest is already made for you.
Thanks for that comment
Thank you for your input.....I am not being paranoid when I say there are people visiting Indymedia who are on the N.S.W. government payroll who are subtly and rather cleverly undermining our credibility, attempting to align us with scientologists and accusing us of 'defaming' the 'chief medical officer'. I do not believe that any genuine activist would be involved in such undermining of the cause of his/her brother activists. This person or these people are obviously well trained in psychology, brainwashing, propaganda, etc. I ask that all genuine Indymedia activists reject their attacks and be alert to them.
Healthquest is basically a
Healthquest is basically a cog in this nazi machine government of ours.
It keeps whistleblowers quiet so their are no riots like at Cronulla people who suffer racist attacks are pushed to the back of the machine they are basically murdered, many whistleblowers commit suicide than rather face a lifetime of isolation.
Workplace violence
The poor guy was just one more victim of workplace violence. Until such violence is recognised by our legal systems as violence, no justice will ever be done. It will be sad but understandable when a victim of such violence responds in kind. Dr Jagger and his mates are Bastards, no better than the Nazi's who claimed they were only following orders. The orders, which you won't find printed anywhere, but which are non-the-less official, are to destroy anyone who attempts to blow the whistle on government corruption, ineptitude, incompetence, waste, victimisation, or who seeks 'natural justice'. To all you perpetrators: don't whinge when you reap the harvest of the violence you have sewn.
Gatekeepers to the role of abnormality
Of course what all you Health Quest therapy persons (who have been identified as an alien) by the gatekeepers to the role of abnormality have to realise is that this was happening in the prisons along time before they rolled it out in the wider community.
It is because of the neglect of the issue in prison that they decided to give you all a taste of it too.
It is commonplace in prison to shut prisoners up and guess what there is no Indymedia in Prison.
So a community can be judged by the way it does treat its prisoners.
My observations at the time were:
1) Common sense was always the answer that unravelled the psych's ideas about your personality disorder.
2)The psych's motivation is usually prestige.
So keep up the good work people and perhaps your effort will do something about the prison as well because that is the very source of your treatment by these thugs at large now in the community.
If they can get away with it on the prisoners then they will try and get away with it with you.
No wonder there is little or no treatment available for people who are mentally ill and need help!
healthquest evil
i am heartened to read thoughtful and thought provoking comments for a change about the of evil of healthquest and similar practices instead of the illiterate sniping that has too often occurred on this website i am aware from an excellent expose by brett collins of justice actions concerning the abuse of psychiatry in prisons-this government is an abomination in all its guises
Healthquest Evil.
Healthquest was set up with a purpose of helping employess in the public sector, instead it was railroaded by the Gov't to shut up whistleblowers or anyone else that had the nerve to speak up on issues about the workplace.
For years the antics of Healthquest and others like GIO have been known to to all levels of Gov't, both State and Federal, AMA, and HCCC here in New South Wales. One reason why Healthquest continues to issue fake medical certificates is apathy. When people are made aware, they brush it aside because it is not happening to them. That is the problem here, we have become a nation of not caring individuals.
Some of those employed by Healthquest to carry out assessments have ruined alot of people's lives with their fake diagnois of each individual having "mixed anxiety and depression disorder", or "paranoid Schizophrenia." While none of these individuals fit the diagnosis bestowed upon them by Healthquest, they are stuck with it, as if you attempt to fight it in the courts you are just made out to be more mentally unstable. Lucky are those that have contacts or family members that can give them a job, but for others they are made to suffer, they lose their income and have to go on the dole, and for them to find another job is virtually impossible with the label on them by healthquest.
Until people get behind people like Mr Crewdson, and others that have been falsely labelled by these fake Medical Certificates that Healthquest issues, they will just continue to issue them.
A very precious intelligence
I am fortunate enough to have met Mr Crewdson. He can often be found busking with his trumpet around the city. He's a genius, no two ways about it. He has intellect, imagination and intuition. He is a bit of a mystic at heart. His mind is an ever-changing kaleidoscope of colours containing the deepest mysteries of the universe. He has keen perception and is impatient with mediocrity. He is in the same class as John Stuart Mill, Johann von Goethe and Rene Descartes. If you ever get a chance to speak to him, you will feel that you are in the presence of someone truly remarkable and not of this world. He is a somewhat enigmatic figure; his lack of interest in fashion may shock people. Beethoven was like this. He has both intellect and outstanding creative talent. If you are fortunate enough to meet him, you will certainly sense his greatness. His mind is awe-inspiring. He has a photographic memory; just one glance at someone and he can go home and paint their portrait in the most intricate detail. He is marked by meekness in behaviour and has no awareness that his mind is in any way superior to anyone else's. He is kind and thoughtful to others and never thinks ill of anyone. He has a truly amazing memory for facts and points of law. He is very caring about people, animals, the environment. He has a particular affinity with the downtrodden of history. He is easily hurt by thoughtless behaviour. For anyone to question his sanity is the most abominable, despicable, repugnant thing for his mind is far superior to those of any of the departmental managers, doctors, government officials and judges who have had the temerity to have 'judged' him and found him wanting. To those who have cruelly treated him I say may you be cursed forever and ever.
HealthQuest 'doctors' think they're getting away with it
These bastages who have staffed HealthQuest over the years, who have certified whistleblowers insane, certified the disabled unfit to work, ruined lives, families, marriages, arrogantly given their evil 'opinions' as a favour to the N.S.W. government departments employing them, think they have got away with it. The N.S.W. government continually amends laws and passes new laws so that HealthQuest doctors are 100% safe from being sued. For example, the government made HQ a 'statutory body' so that it would not be subject to the inconvenient privacy laws. They think they are getting away with it and have got away with it. They are getting away with it in the sense that the I.C.A.C. continually finds no 'systemic corruption' is involved, the Health Care Complaints Commission does lily-livered things like arranging conciliation meetings instead of condemning them, the Ombudsman does very little, no-one wants to get involved. But let me tell you, corrupt ones, the people don't need the ICAC to declare something corrupt for everyone to know that it is. Just as we knew Soviet psychiatry was a form of corruption, just by reading about it from a distance, so everyone knows HealthQuest's past and recent actions are corrupt. You will all go down in history, mark my words. After you are dead and gone, you will be written about and your descendants will be ashamed of bearing your surnames. Generations of people down the track are going to KNOW WHAT YOU DID, because it's being carefully documented by people in various whistleblower organizations. You are making history for all the wrong reasons. How could doctors behave like this? Didn't they go into their professions to help and to heal? How can they so easily be corrupted and persuaded to make decisions that assist the government to remove workers from their employment? Then you have the employers themselves. Heads of departments. People at the top levels of DOCS, TAFE, the Department of Education, who for years have known if they told a few lies to HealthQuest, if they suggested a worker may be mad, HealthQuest would put the desired label on the person: personality disorder, adjustment disorder, schizophrenia, paranoia, delusions. A recent case has shown HealthQuest has not become an honest organization under Dr Dodwell. How would you feel if HealthQuest said you were married and having problems and you were not married? How would you feel if HealthQuest agreed with a high-ranking departmental official that you had been at fifteen workplaces in eleven years when it was an out and out lie? How would you feel if a departmental official wrote on a document sent to HealthQuest that you couldn't get along with anyone when you were the most easygoing person around? It's not just the HealthQuest doctors, it's government departments and their employees who have LIED and ARE STILL LYING about public servants who have fallen foul of their superiors through being very outspoken about abuses or corrupt practices. How do you refute the statement 'He was having trouble in his marriage', as a friend of mine has tried to? How would you feel if a departmental head wrote on your file "He has been involved in a custody battle' when there was no custody battle? What about if they said you kept changing your name when you have had the same name for 45 years? And you told HealthQuest doctors you never changed your name but they didn't believe you because someone from your department said it was true and they wouldn't lie? That it must be a symptom of your madness that you cannot remember changing your name all the time as you had trouble in your non-existent marriage and fought an imaginary custody battle? How would you feel if a departmental official wrote in a letter to HealthQuest that you liked to see your 'story' in the papers when in fact the story in the papers was one of a family tragedy? You can state to HealthQuest "I am not married. I am not living with anyone. There was no custody battle." But they don't believe you. They instead believe the official who wrote this thing. The HealthQuest doctor will instead make a note on your file "He does not accept the truth, that he was having trouble in his marriage and this was affecting his work and that he was at fifteen workplaces in eleven years and that he kept changing his name." You can send HealthQuest the Department's own records that you have got under F.O.I., you can PROVE you were only at three workplaces in all those years - but HealthQuest will continue to say that you are lying. That you don't remember all the trouble you caused and how you were transferred every few months. It doesn't matter that you were in one workplace for six years, another for five and there wasn't a single complaint about you. HealthQuest just will not accept anything that you say. New regulations state that government departments can no longer lobby HeadQuarters in an attempt to get the result they want. But many people still have filth on their HealthQuest files from 20 years back put their by government departments to destroy their reputations and HealthQuest will not remove that old false material. And you can't tell me that while nothing is put on paper, government departmental heads don't ring Dr Dodwell and make comments about a worker suggesting they must be forced to medically retire. No-one can tell me these secret phone calls are not happening. A friend of mine is being driven to distraction by the use of a very old document by Dr Dodwell in which a government departmental head states that he was 'married', 'involved in a custody battle', 'at fifteen workplaces in 11 years', and 'kept changing his name' when none of it is true. He tells me he lies awake at night distressed and upset because there is no way for him to refute the lies, no way for him to have the document removed. This is pure MALICE on the part of N.S.W. government departments. There will be a price to pay. Another Professor Manning Clarke will come along and write the true history of N.S.W. and HealthQuest. Those who have had the courage to stand up against this evil, like Gerard Crewdson, still battling them through the courts, will then have the victory they deserve.
A Crying Shame
Yes, and some of us know a very nice lady, who's liked by all who meet her, who's done nothing wrong to deserve Dodwell's wrath, and who cries herself to sleep every night in despair at what he has done to her. She can't bear the thought that there is no way to refute the lies that were written about her by a government department to HealthQuest some years ago. No, nothing has changed at HealthQuest.
HealthQuest's Dodwell Has Still Not Fixed This Atrocity
Seemingly this is still another case [see http://www.wbde.org/documents/2006_Mar_03_IndyMedia_HealthQuestingValKerrison.php and http://www.wbde.org/documents/Gerard_Crewdsons_Final_Submission_at_the_IRC.php ]
that Dr Dodwell is sitting on - letting the HealthQuest victim rot - perhaps die - as a result of their psychiatrists' inhumanity.
See other facts and atrocities on our growing web site WhistleBlowers' Documents Exposed http://wbde.org
Jo Hewitt
reporter@wbde.org
They are digging a hole to lie in
These government departments and HealthQuest, now running scared and manufacturing evidence against people, are digging a hole for themselves. And one day soon, someone with integrity and authority is going to come along and shine a torch down that hole and catch them lying in their own filth.
My name is Qu'ach Nhung. HealthQuest ruined my life
Val Kerrison's cases filed in the ADT are finally being allowed to be heard. They are the discrimination and victimising cases against TAFE (especially Ramsey and Willmott), and aiding and abetting cases against CSAH (HealthQuest) and NSW Health Dept (MAP) . Crown Solicitors and ADT put them off for years, but they are set down for hearing soon.
Keep an eye on WhistleBlowers' Documents Exposed
http://wbde.org
Jo