How Israel Created The Myth of Al-Qaeda
submitted by Seymour Hersh
Seymour Hersh found out that hundreds of Mossad foreign fighters have been in Iraq for a long time.
Their specialty: car bombs, sexual torture, beheadings.
These Israeli citizens came into Iraq disguised as Arab or Kurdish civilians, businessmen. Maybe "contractors"? Under contract with the Pentagon's neocon office? Your tax dollars at work?
How much of their work is blamed on Abu Musab al-Zarqawi? How much of Israel's terrorism is blamed on "Al-Qaeda"?
I have investigated the development of the "mujahideen" and here is my conclusion:
In the 80's, Israel supervised the recruitment of Arab Afghan "mujahideen" supposedly to fight against Russia. They became cannon fodder and refugees before they ended up in Guantanamo.
THEIR REAL PURPOSE WAS TO HELP ISRAEL CREATE A USEFUL MYTH: AL-QAEDA. The Arab mujahideen were rather harmless as recent revelations from Guantanamo have shown.
Israeli and Jewish-American intelligence specialists were trusted by the CIA--Israelis being "allies" and experts on the Middle East--to recruit the Arab "mujahideen" to be used by the US against Russia. Israelis disguised as Arab or Pakistani missionaries (tablighis) even ran the recruitment centers. Israelis playing Muslim missionaries (tablighis) were caught in India and Israel rushed to retrieve them.
The Arab "mujahideen" themselves were inefficient and almost useless. I have heard from the relatives of many who died in vain in clumsy incidents in Afghanistan.
All the Zionists wanted was a story, a myth that would enable them to create another myth: "Al-Qaeda." The Zionists needed this myth as an excuse for their long-term plans for the "war on terror," a war to destabilze the Middle East and pit the world against Muslims.
Neither Bin Laden nor the Arab refugees he took care of were of any military significance. The Afghans themselves were the real efficient mujahideen because they knew the territory and the tribal structure. The Afghans actually saw the Arabs as nuisance.
Arabs say "nothing comes out of a pot except what's in it." When the neocon liars speak about Arab/Islamic terrorism and Al-Qaeda, they are in fact talking about what they themselves are doing. They are talking about Israeli covert activities.
No Arabs are involved. Israeli commandos move around using forged or stolen Arab ID's and--if necessary--they wear masks to hide their real identities, such as in beheading videos.
Israelis continue to fake whatever it takes to prove that the "war on terror," i.e. the war on Arabs has to continue.
Listen to them more carefully, folks. The Zionists in our midst have been telling us the truth all along. Just replace "Arab" with "Israeli," replace "Al-Qaeda" with "Mossad," etc.













All time high.
Just let me check.... yep, my Indymedia Shit-O-Meter has just clocked a new record!
Congratulations to all involved! Keep up the good work!
Jew Baiting
Conspiracy Theory.
Well I guess it's all possible, but I'm not going to beleive it just because it's written on Indymedia.
It doesn't matter who has got the world on a leash, it's the leash that is a problem. We need to create a new way of being where power is evenly distributed, so no minority can rule everyone else, so there is freedom for all.
How do we acheive such a world?
This is getting ridiculous
I know, Jews did the twin towers.
I regret that the name of someone who has a reputation as an investigative journalist, (even if he is a bit like Dr McBride and looking for another Thalomide) has been purloined by a person who has all the political acumen of a walrus.
Ryutin
American military report on Jews presenting as Arabs.
check out the writings of Victor Ostrovsky if you think this rubs up your soft sense of reality the wrong way.
American military report on the Mossad presenting as Arabs was compiled in 2000. >> reported in the >Washingon Post I think.
Tricky world this is.
The story is finally out
RADICALISM, noun: The conservatism of tomorrow injected into the affairs of today. -- Ambrose Bierce
Sounds about right
The reason this point of view sounds ok is that it's strong on motive. Who has profited from this whole farago the neocons and zionists who has the resourses and organisational abilities to commint such appalling acts, neo cons and zionists and it doesn't take a Columbo to figure out where the smoke screens are comming from when awkward questions are asked. Most people belive what they want to belive especially if they have a vested intrest in such a farago bless em, the consquenses of even takeing part of the so called alternative version of the 911 and subsquent events as being true are so overwheming that most of the Goy as the Zionist refer to "we the people" as to bring on a kind of brain numbing psycosis that just demands that most people just change the subject of get into some banal distractions such as pointless ball games as is the pastime here in Blighty not that thats a bad thing in it self, o well thats just the way it is :(
Home Run
Finally, somebody sharp enough and courageous enough to put the pieces together. In a world were everything is bullshit, why would anyone assume that these thoughtful words are less accurate than the rubbish that regularly spews from the mouths of politicians, media whores, academic charlatans, and generic apologists. The lies at the heart of Israel are unraveling. The end is near.
dancing bears
Like a GOOD NEIGHBOR "STATE FARM IS THERE".
request for source
Mr. Hersh,
Could you refer me to your sources for the three contentions in the following statement:
"Israelis playing Muslim missionaries (tablighis) were caught in India and Israel rushed to retrieve them.",
i.e.:
(1) Israelis played tablighis,
(2) they were caught (by Indian police?),
(3) Israel retrieved them
?
Gratefully yours,
Michel Leclerc
al qaeda is a mossad front & laden is dead
this is right. this news item appeared in the Asian Age & i distinctly recall having cut out the story myself and had filed the same. It is clear that the mossad has infiltrated various Arab & Muslim militant & religious organizations & has also set up the al qaeda as a front organization for its terror activities and disinformation by video and audio tapes. through my research i am convinced that al qaeda is a hoax & that Bin Laden is dead & has been so since december 2001.
even in India now it is being uncovered that the Hindutva right wing - allies of the zionists, are responsible for all the terror attacks for which muslims were being demonised.
the politics of terror is now thecentral strategy of the zioncons to promote and globalise islamophobia.
feroze mithiborwala
Mumbai - India
Israel & the false flag of Islamic Terrorism
Since 911 I have been utterly apalled at the abysmal level of knowledge about recent political history, in the American and British media.
It has long been established that Israel's Mossad uses the method of "False Flag" operations in order to triangulate bystanders into its conflicts.
Israeli agents bombed Jordanian hotels, disguising the act as some sort of Islamic 'terrorism', in order to provoke Arab Jews into seeking 'refuge' in Israel.
That was during the rule of the British Mandate (pathetic overt imperialism).
After Israel was formally established (recognised by the British-American proxy "League" of Nations) came the "Lavon Affair", when Israeli agents attempted to murder Americans in Egypt and blame it on Egyptian muslims.
That was a famously botched job, when Egyptian police managed to capture some of the agents and force revelation of the project, in court.
The end result was the resignation of Israeli cabinet member (defence minister, iirc) Lavon.
The massacre of US Navy men, on the USS Liberty, was another attempt at manufacturing conflict between America and Egypt.
Later still, in the '80s, Israel bombed Americans in a German nightclub, setting up Libya for American retaliation (the retarded bugger Reagan being of only average American intelligence, didn't have a clue).
The "Israeli tablighis" were caught at Calcutta airport by Indian security people, who had hoped to capture some suspicious looking muslims.
The story was in the Indian press, and was also mentioned in "War on Freedom" (Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed).
Israeli agents were also caught attempting to blow up the Mexican parliament building, shortly after 911.
Again the story was only briefly available in the Mexican press, as the Jewish media monopoly ensured a virtual silence on the matter.
That incident was resolved when Jose Gutterman (American Jewish Mexican) used his influence with Vincente Fox to secure their (the Mossad goons) release to Israel.
There's absolutely no reason to suspect the existence of any international "Islamic Terrorist" organisation.
It is Israel that invented this myth and it is Israel that executes these actions.
Plausible
I think this poster is surely on the right track. Zionists were willing to do ANYTHING to create a Jewish state in Palestine and, once they got their state (and they paid Truman $2 million to get it), they have proven willing to do ANYTHING to strengthen it. Anyone who thinks that Israel acts in accordance with conventional international norms is just showing their ignorance of history. I feel sure that Israel is doing, and will continue to do, ANYTHING, including things that most of us don't think anyone would dare do.
Oy veh!
I summarily wrote this article off as a troll, but now I see it has 29 comments! Ooh er...
There's only one really worth responding to, by "Z-Dawg".
Good to see you are now calling yourself a Jew! (Or should that be "non-goy" cough cough) to try and add some credibility to your (poorly spelled, rather unintelligent) rubbish. Really, who are you kidding? Do you hate Jews just because they are smarter than you or is there some other beef? If you are Jewish then I'm the Imam of Lakemba Mosque.
So in answer to your question, is criticism of Israel automatically anti-Semitic? No.
BUT - when you lie, deceive and criticise Israel more than any other country with far worse offences and human rights, it IS anti-Semitic, you ARE a bigot and your agenda is pretty obvious.
Finally, you might wish to note the spelling of anti-Semitic for the next time you try this tired old argument to try and deny what you very clearly are.
Kathy
Kathy,
You are SO full of it.
1) USS Liberty? Do some research away from Nazi websites. The results may surprise you.
http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/liberty.html
http://www.nsa.gov/liberty/index.cfm
Of course you probably think NSA is actually a Mossad shopfront.
2) As for "israel doesn't want peace" - why don't you ask Jordan or Egypt about it, considering Israel could have flattened them both in a second if what you said was true.
Too bad for them that the Palestinians aren't interested in peace alongside Israel.
Evil Cabal? Jews controlling media, banks and Government? YES! You really are an anti-Semite!
So does your tin-foil hat have a little swastika on it?
20Arab nations supported the war
" Israel had been among the war s most enthusiastic supporters"
What is always ignored by the looney left, is that 20 out of 22 Arab nations supported the ouster of Saddam...but hey, there are jews in the neighborhood...IT'S ALL THEIR FAULT (Saddam fired 39 scuds at Israel during the first Gulf War, and Israel was forced NOT to respond...wouldn't want to offend arabs would we?)
yea sure
It has totally been confirmed. Israeli Mousad agents invented the myth Al-Qaeda and were responsible for the WTC bombings.
Yours truly
the Easter Bunny
Israel - a light unto the nations? Or a black hole?
I appreciate muchly Seymour Hersh's continuing reports with respect to Iraq and Israel.
Who are Jews
take a look at this Bush family history
http://www.spectrezine.org/resist/bush.htm
From the article: "Alfred Mendes outlines the history of America's beloved First Family and some of their choice friends."
Mar. 29 33: As revealed in Moshe Gottlieb s book American Anti-Nazi Resistance 33 - 41 , Max Warburg s son, Erich, cabled his cousin, Frederick Warburg - who was a director of the Union Pacific Railroad - instructing him to use his influence to stop all anti-Nazi propaganda &
activity in America.
Mar. 31 33: As a result: the American-Jewish committee (within which the Warburgs had much influence) & The B nai B rith (which subsequently became known as the Anti-Defamation League) issued a joint statement counselling that no American boycott against Germany be encouraged
..................................................
Why?
Shit-o-meter; full of shit
Ssssuuuurrrrreeeee, Israel has nothing to do with 9-11 or the Iraq invasion. Its all them AY-rabs in caves in Afghanistan. I especially like the part where they order NORAD to stand down. And Silverstein just happened to have some explosives handy when he brought WTC 7 down a few hours after the planes hit. ANd Odigo just coincidentally happen to warn its employees of an impending attack. And those Israeli spies cheering the deaths of all those people from the moving van in New Jersey mistook a tragedy for a rock concert. And all of those put options on American Airlines and United Airlines that haven't been investigated were just good timing. And all of those explosions heard by firemen were just sound effects. And Netanyahu slobbering over himself about how good this was for U.S.- Israeli relations was just serendipitous. And much of the intelligence for weapons of mass destruction was that was provided by Israel. And the fact that the Mossad was caught setting up an Al Qaeda branch in Gaza was just a rogue operation. All of it is just conicidence.
Vell, vhat else ist new?
"Anyone who thinks that Israel acts in accordance with conventional international norms is just showing their ignorance of history."
Conventional international norms!!!? LMAO!!!
Israel is the only nation which has been under attack for 60 years...hardly "Conventional"...
International norms? Like genocide and enslavement in Sudan?
Vell Hans...you might be right...those Chews vill defend themselves despite "international norms"...
Lying is our game
you are pathetic h nazi all you Ukase how to do is lie
Zionists
Look back at the 3rd Riech in the 1930s 50% of the Riech ministry were Zionist doctors, lawyers and scientists Read 'The Nazis' By Laurence Rees. From BBC-- A warning from history. First broadcast by BBC 1997. There was involvment in the persecution of other jews by this supremacist league of elites. Their departure prior to WW2 was orchestrated by US and UK They even call themselves Hitlers Immegres. Most became well established soon after arrival which puts paid to the fact that they were refugees fleeing the holocaust. These were not your ordinary hard working jews who were sent to concentraion camps they were of considerable means and were in contact with academics abroad thruoughout the build up to war. We can only presume they deposited considerable wealth with British and Us banks who welcomed them with open arms All became established pillars of society whilst claiming they were refugees. Zionism has no place amongst honest Jews.
Delia
Execution of Jews - History
Nick Berg , Danny Pearl
Nick Berg and Danny Pearl were Muslims, dressed up to look like Jews...cleverly diguised as Muslims, Jewish Israeli Mossad agents then proceeded to cut off their heads....all this, to blame peace loving muslims around the world!!! Will the ZIONISTS stop at nothing!?
This just in from Al Jezeera....the Korean guy? He cut off his own head while surrounded by CIA operatives...man those guys ar good!
PURE ANTI-SEMITIC GARBAGE
THIS ARTICLE IS PURE ANTI-SEMITIC GARBAGE .
SEYMOUR HERCH IS KNOWN FOR HIS ABSURD AND
SENSASSIONALIST FICTICIOUS "NEWS".
BUT THE ABOVE ARTICLE SEEMS TO BE WRITTEN
BY SOMEONE ELSE, IN PURE ANTI-SEMITIC
AND MENDACIOUS PURPOSES.
TO FOLLOW THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT, 9/11
ONE WOULD CONCLUDE THAT 9/11 WAS THE WORK
OF THE ISRAELIS, THE MOSSAD AND OF COURSE
OF ..THE JEWS ! IT WAS NOT ISLAMIC FANATICS
WHO DID ALL THAT. OSAMA BIN-LADEN IS
A CREATION OF ZIONISM.
ONE COULD LAUGH AT THESE ARTICLES, IF
THE PURPOSE OF THE LIES WAS NOT SO
IGNOMIOUS. THE AUTHOR IS A DISCIPLE OF
GOEBBELS OBVIOUSLY: THE BIGGER THE LIE,
THE EASIER FOR THE MASSES TO ACCEPT IT,
AFTER FEW REPETITIONS ! WHO SAID THAT
THE NAZI MENTALITY IS DEAD ?
BENJAMIN YAFET
Friendly people??
They are at the end of they'r power. They have become arrogant,& that mean stupid. One word to them "Beware of the anger from the European Christian. The "holocaust" will be seen as a picnic to you!
Old News
Anybody who has even done the slightest bit of research will know that, yes, this is very true, but it's old news, and unfortunately, news that will never make it's way to most people. Anyone that disagrees without doing their own research, is just a fucking blind idiot.
conicidence
i couldnt agree more AMEN
anti sematic?
what does anti-sematic mean and where did it derrive from
a U$er chimes in
While the original poster's thesis may be true (Boris Balkan, Pulsar et. al. bring up relevant supporting evidence), Sy Hersh's latest article in the New Yorker about Mossad in Iraqi Kurdistan does not support it. It does say that Mossad has a heavy presence in Iraq, but it does not suugest in any way that they are connected to the car bombings or beheadings attributed to the resistance or the sexual torture attributed to the occupiers.
Here is the link to Sy Hersh's latest article:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040628fa_fact
Check for yourself.
Same in Iraq, Sudan, Turky, Bosnia, Armennia...
Yeh, right, those Zionist are all over the place. The Muslims are only seeking peace in the world and a bunch of Mosad agents are trying to prevent it. Just lately, a peace agreement was signed in south Sudan. The Israeli Mosad could not bear it, so they sent their under-cover agents to take care of the problem. Very shortly after that - genocide is taking place in Sudan. Muslims are killing other Muslims, just because they don't like the outcome of the above peace treaty.
Same thing happens in Iraq. Some Mosad agents are not very happy with the up-coming regime replacement, due to take place next week. So they have sent their fellow collages to encourage some Muslims to kill a hundred innocent other Muslims in one day of terror attacks. Not to mention the three human beings who were beheaded by in-significant young guys, driven by Mosad orders to warn the world against the terrible chance of democracy in Iraq.
Same day, different area, Turkey: A bomb in a bus killed three Muslims in Istanbul, and another bomb went off near Hilton Hotel in Ankara, where George W is going to stay during his visit to Turkey. Only Mosad agents could do that!
The Israeli Air force is known to be the best in the world. Therefore, El-Quaida s pilots had taken a few flying lessons in Israel before they completed their holly mission on World Towers. Just to make sure they wouldn t miss their target.
Do I need to go on with this? It is quite obvious, isn t it?
There are 2,5 billion Muslims in the world, living in many different countries, but not even one of them has democratic system. They live peacefully all over their huge territories, yet they have one problem:
There is only one tiny little country in the Middle East, which is democratic. 5 million Jews and one million Arabs live in it. The state of Israel was created in 1948 after the United Nation had declared this territory as the (only) homeland for the Jewish people. This decision is known in the Arab world as Naqba , their national disaster. They cannot bear the existence of a democratic nation amongst themselves. That is why a holly war has been declared, called Gihad . This is not just another word; it means a war that cannot be stopped by anyone before absolute victory. Unfortunately, they can t use Mosad agents to fight the Jewish state, so the give them only little rolls as worlds new Muslim Crusade Creators.
The Muslims have another secret weapon, it s called uterus. Europe is floded by millions of Muslims who want to live there peacefully. Their multiplying rate is five times higher then the average Europeans and it causes lots of headache to local authorities. France (Driven by Mosad agents, of course!) has recently ruled out the use of religious scarfs within schools and universities.
Mr. Seymour Hersh, I suggest you would look around and see what happens in Sydney suburbs too. Mosad agents are bringing boatful of Muslims to Australia. Not that there is any problem with it, they are very peaceful, law obeying citizens. They have not brought the Muslim conflicts with them; they want to start new life here. There are no shootings at any Muslim neighbourhood; they are very modernly dressed, leaving their traditional desert dresses behind. That s why the Mosad is helping them to come to Sydney to show their gratitude for helping them create all these worldwide troubles.
And I say: WWW = Wake-up Western World.
The latest rumour is that Australia is the next target for Muslim Terror.
I mean, driven by Mosad s agents.
Some Basis in Fact
Seymour Hersch writes for New Yorker Magazine and is noted for his investigative reports breaking the silence on VietNam. The above posting refers to his recent New Yorker article (also reported in Haaretz a Jewish daily in Israel) about the Mossad working with the Kurds in Northern Iraq as well as Turkey. I don't know how much else in the above is true except there are reports in mainstream news about Mossad in Iraq, at Abu Ghraib as well as Israeli contractors. It's also true that the Mossad attempted to recruit and set up a "false flag" al Qaeda operation in Palestine, attempted to bomb the Mexican embassy and have recently been caught and deported from Australia as well as the US. The "dancing Israeli's" across from the WTC were Mossad agents and were not detained but "deported" back to Israel. In fact several suspicious Israeli's who've been caught in the US recently (entered the country illegally etc) staking out Nuclear sites in the US were detained, then deported..........makes you wonder about all those catastrophic terror alerts coming from the government leading up to the election and Bush's endorsement of Sharon's land grab in the West bank, a little tit for tat maybe?
Jews Faking For Long Time
The "jews" have been faking their heritage for a lot longer than many people know. The "jews" as we know them originated in eurasia within the last 1500-1800 years. The were originally known as the Khazzar "jews". Why do you think they call themselves Israelis instead of Israelites. They have no rightous claim to the land of Yisrael thats why it must be taken by force. Even with that said 95% of Israelis are secular leaving only 5% as orthodox "jews". This is not intended to be a racist or "anti-semitic"(whatever that means) reamrks. This is simply the truth. I say that to say this, nothing out of modern day Israel should be taken at face value. This land was unjustly and immorally take from the Palestinians. In order to maintain this unjust and cowardly act the zionist continue to lie, murder and decieve the world into believing they were somehow promised this land by YHWH. Read the book of revelations it tells the world to beware of those who say they are "jews" but are really the synogue of satan. Not the one to get religious or deep into the bible all I'm saying is that the whole notion that the Israeli "jews" are honest god fearing people who are just defending themselves from the evil terrorist is about as big of a lie as Iraq having WMDs. Peace and Love to the entire human race.
The winner gets to write the history
"Israeli commandos move around using forged or stolen Arab ID's and--if necessary--they wear masks to hide their real identities, such as in beheading videos."
That's pretty creative. But, moslems have been beheading people for years....long before Iraq, and it has nothing to do with jews or Israel.
http://www.worldevangelical.org/persec_phillipines_23aug02.html
(Israelis pretending to be Phillipinos? LMAO!!!
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Gilchrist/Vol1/1c.html
" The Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, authorised Sa'd ibn Mu'adh to give a decision about them. He passed an order: He who is subjected to razors (i.e. the male) should be killed, women and children should be enslaved and property should be distributed. Thereupon the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, said: You have decided in confirmation to the judgement of Allah, above the seven heavens. The Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, returned on Thursday 7 Dhu al- Hijjah. Then he commanded them to be brought into al-Madinah where ditches were dug in the market. The Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him, sat with his Companions and they were brought in small groups. Their heads were struck off. They were between six hundred and seven hundred in number. (Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, Vol. 2, p. 93). "
Nice try, but no cigar!
I am a great fan of Mr. Hersh, the writer for The New Yorker magazine, and I will bet my last dollar that he did not write this article. The style is entire too superficial and juvenille.
Maybe you mean somebody other than Mr. Hersh of The New Yorker. Yeah?
Disinformation was first posted on Tajik Site
This piece of disinformation was first posted on
http://members5.boardhost.com/voice_of_Tajiks/msg/813.html
by Charkari on 6/24/2004, 1:17 pm from jc-laptop-24.labs.gmu.edu (George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia). Of course, Seymour Hirsh didn't write it.
I find it disturbing that a few people reading this found it plausible. This fact shows a great problem, that anti-Jewish psychosis is so prevalent.
1984 was not a work of fiction
Al-Qaeda is Emmanuel Goldstein !
"Some call you the 'elite.' I call you my base."
...and others call you Al Qaeda.
Kaminski on the Fakeness of "Al Quaeda"
Although they are used in Saudi Arabia as a penalty for certain crimes after strict procedures involving judges and holy men, beheadings are specifically a Talmudic punishment, a Zionist Jewish remedy for any behavior that does not please the Jews. And any resistance to the Jewish Zionist agenda does not please the Jews.
I'm saying these beheadings send a signal to Jews all over the world that the Mossad is involved in these executions. A smug, sadistic signal of their superiority. They surely have help from the CIA and some segment of the Saudi power structure. But this is the same kind of signal that warned so many Jews not to go to work on September 11, 2001 in downtown New York City. What this signal specifically means we cannot be sure, but we can be sure it does not mean anything good for the non-Jews of the world.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51070
Picture worth 1,000,000,000 words
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Anyone remember?????
Does anyone remember the 5 cheering Israelis on the roof of a building filming and cheering the WTC collapse??
I do.
They were arrested, and 4 of them were later found to be Mossad. Israel later retrieved them. Now when asked, US officials explain the information regarding those Israelis posing as art students, is classified.
Ummm.....Yeah.
What could there be to hide?
Just as there are fanatical Muslims, there are fanatical Jews. Both sets of extremists will do anything to achieve their goals. This IS a holy war to both sides.
Ever wonder why criticism of Israel is considered "anti-semetic"?? As a Jew, even I find this proposterous. And for those who do not know, if you want to talk religion, educated Jews know that Israel is not supposed to occupy the holy Land untilo the "2nd coming" which is due to happen before the year 6000. (Its roughly year 5780 on our calender) So, religiously, Israel has been prematurely formed.
Israel is called the "Zionist State" for a reason.
Please remember people, that not all Jews are Zionists. Most are not, in fact. It is unfortunate that most Zionists are Jews, which gives the rest of my fellow non-goyim, a very bad name, indeed.
Lets try not to kill eachother off with our egos.
Stay safe Folks.
a fake, I think
This doesn't sound like Sy Hersh at all.
took you long enough to figure this out
this was obvious to me as soon as i heard about bush attacking affagistan in late 2001.
Jews defending the undefendable...
To mr anonymous who chose to use my name.
You are obviously a zionist, and an Isreal- firster.
You are a traitor.
You are a liar and for your information, I would rather stand by the Moslem than with the Jews.
Period.
Thankfully traitors like you will have your job cut out when the rest of decent people connect the dots.
In England we have a saying..."..he who smelt it, dealt it!"
Capish???
911= Mossad
jews are also victims
Anyone remember?????
I concur with what you said. I am muslim but never thought that jews are responsible for the zionists deeds. Remember there are some muslims as well as some christians who support zionism. I do not consider them true muslims or true christians. We are all the victims of the enemies of humanity. I feel sad to see human society being destroyed by a small group who wants to control the world and its economy using the most hideous crimes to achieve their goals. What a waste of human intelligence and civilisation.
We should work hard to stop the bloodshed of innocent people and save the world from those who want to destroy it.
As for those who want a proof that zionists are behind it all, the latter will not allow the proof to come out. Zionists are vindictive. Mr Hersh is an extremely courageous person. May God protect him from the Zionists.
And I must congratulate you Jayson for your comment in "What most people with brains know..." If everybody use their intelligence as effectively as you do zionists will not be as successful in their campaign. Please Z-Dawg don't be discouraged by others who are in denial. You are a good and an intelligent person who has the courage to speak the truth.
Seymour Hersh Wrote this?
Hey does anyone have the actual article??? I am a bit suspicious about this.
How this article distorts the truth
Based on this article, the Taliban must also have been Israelis. Otherwise there is no explanation why they did not surrender Al-Qaeda members (which you wrongfully call Mossad).
There is no truth or proof to these assertions. It is a bunch of lies aimed at blaming Israel for everything.
If you examine jewish history, you never see any of the violence "car bombs, sexual torture, beheadings" you are talking about. Do not foget that "car bombs" have been going off in Israel, planned and carried out by Palestinians, Hamas and the like. I assume you are also blaming Israel for those. Perhaps all leaders and members of those terror groups are also Israelis.
If I were to believe at all this, I would be amazed how Israel was able to do all this with its tiny population, and 50+ millon Arabs surrounding Israel are not able to stop Israel from carrying out all these activities all over the world.
One sided lies, as usual...
Idiot Wrote -
""Based on this article, the Taliban must also have been Israelis. Otherwise there is no explanation why they did not surrender Al-Qaeda members (which you wrongfully call Mossad).""
Do you want the simple explanation?
Colin Powell stood at the UN and stated he had (in his hand) a document proving the Afghan government aided and assisted "Al Qaeda" in the 911 murders. The Afghan government stated clearly on many occassions that they WOULD hand over any "al qaeda"
operatives in Afghanistan if the United States would supply this evidence that Colin Powell produced at the United Nations while justifying the war.
Unexplicably, the United States refused to hand over the "proof" to anyone.
Make your own assumptions.....
Another twat wrote:
"Saddam fired 39 scuds at Israel during the first Gulf War..."
And killed noone.
"and Israel was forced NOT to respond"
Israel made its intentions towards Iraq known many years ago, bombing its nuclear facilities without Iraq responding, no wait, being FORCED NOT TO RESPOND.
You reap what you sow, and the way things are going now I'm moving into the lampost business for when the lynchings start!
And for the person who said Israel was a democracy, get your head out your arse and look at the way that country operates for christs sake.
Re-arrange these words: 'state rogue'.
Cursed by God
I am no scholar but didn't God curse Isaac and Ishmael and their descendents to be at war until the end of time?
So the US has been dragged into another war, we (poor folk) still have to deal with so much on a daily basis that keeping up with the lies being shoveled at us is just part of the NWO's way to distract as all over the world, freedom and wealth diminishes to fewer people.
The end is coming and what is in your charachter will be how you judge yourself.
All truth will be revealed when Jesus returns.
Who benefits from the actions taken by "evil-doers"?
That is the easiest way to discern.
good day to all....
Good Info
Great article, even though i was somewhat aware of most of what you have explained, i didn't know Israel actually did the initial recruiting. it's just a shame that this is not more widely know, especially here in the US. in fact whenever i try to explain things like this, even to close friends who have some pretty open minds, they still treat what i say with alot of skepticism. it's sad and it just shows how brainwashed alot of us is the US really are.
Error
Hersh didn't write this.. It was written by Cyte on Liberty Forum.
What most people with brains know...
This is what I, and I suppose many others, who are not brainwashed by the media think.
If anyone cares to study history, noteably Islamic history (1400 years) NEVER have behaedings or acts of terror been a part of their agenda.
Isrealis and Zionists however have used teror and false flag operations for their aims for a long time. And using their brothers in the media have painted a distorted picture of reality that can only be explained as 'blatant lies'. They hate Moslems, and want everyone else to as well.
All of the comments on here who ridicule this article cannot refute any of it's claims, so 'they' resort to petty name calling and such like.
People are waking up, slowly but surely. 911 was an isreali job, no doubt about it. So was Bali, Islanbul, Madrid and a whole host of others.
Decency will prevail, even if the zionists hate it.
I urge people to read behind the lies of the media, and connect the dots for yourself. Don't take anyones word for it, do the research yourself, and see what you come up with.
The results will shock you.
You've been reading Islamic Propaganda
" If anyone cares to study history, noteably Islamic history (1400 years) NEVER have behaedings or acts of terror been a part of their agenda"
LOL!!!! Mohamed (Piss be Upon Him) beheaded 800 Jewish men of Medina...because they wouldn't accept his bogus new religion. This, after he had made a treaty with the Jews, and the Jews had invited him to live among them.
The jewish women and children were divided among the "faithful" as sex slaves...Mohamed (piss be upon him) had first pick of course, because he was the "prophet of Shaitan"...afterall...
Islam is (chuckle) peace
"As for those who want a proof that zionists are behind it all, the latter will not allow the proof to come out."
LOL!!!! Man those ZIONISTS are good!!! How'd ya find out? One of the Elders of Zion slip, and accidentally let you in on it?
You guys will believe anything that's served up to you...
Hey, wait a minute...there's a transmission coming in right now!!! Yep, confirmed!! Whatever it is, THE ZIONISTS did it!!!
Those b*stards!!! They're going to make peaceful moslems do horrible things...again...
Re: Israeli's pretending to be al Qaeda
Hi
I read your artivle with great interest, and am more than convinced that the whole al Qaeda terrorist group not only began as a CIA funded and trained anti Russian group and moreover that training was almost certainly also provided by the Israelis.
Moreover I truly believe that the notion of al Qaeda is now used as some propogation of the Israeli/USA evil axis. Put simply follow the money. After 911 who has fiscally and politically benefited from the attack? Certainly no Arab states...
The answers are clear, and perhaps even more insidious since the Americans are tentatively moving towards the possibility of suspending their own elections in the event of yet another unspecified 'attack' - in short the USA is not so gently moving to the inexorable military Junta its neocons crave.
One thing, though, with your article, where is the de facto proof of Mossad fighters in Iraq?
I ask because if you have any proof - put it on the net - send it to all the Western News Agencies - lets see these merchants of death put back firmly where they belong - in a War Crimes trial.
Yours hopefully,
Phil Smith
These Israeli citizens
It was not Greece who recently won Euro 2004 (1-0 on Portugal in the final). It was Israelis disguised as greeks who wanted to destablize Europe.
Interesting
Interesting. I never thought of this before. I can certainly see this being the case. How do we prove it though?
reaction on this article
you know what sir: anti-semitism is flamboyant and abundant throughout the world. obviously everything was pprevisioned by God , but people like yourself are just pure instigators and antsemites, making up nonsinsial fables and funny things to read. it is obvious that mossad members all do is protecting tiny Israel from despots and terrorist who do nothing but kill in the name of God innocent Izraelis. but somebody has got to be involved in fable writing...
Fantasy Islam
Just replace "Arab" with "Israeli," replace "Al-Qaeda" with "Mossad," etc.
hahahaaa....I knew it had to be THE JEWS I knew it!!! I just Knew it!!! Didn't I tell you that sigfried? Didn't I say IT WAS THE JEWS!!!!
Hello Ahmed...it was just confirmed...IT WAS THE JEWS!!!!
They also killed 256 US Marines in Beirut, Blew up the Khobar Towers, Attacked the USS Cole..Killed hundreds in two separate bombings of US embassies in Africa. killed some kids in Bali, made an earthquake in San Francisco...kicked over Mrs O'Leary's COW...
they don't Remeber the Maine!!! The JEWS make the weather cold in winter, and too bloody hot in summer!! Weathermen on TV are MOSSAD agents!! Ever notice when you're planning a picnic, and the JEWS tell you it's going to be SUNNY and it rains!!!? Those BLOODY ZIONIST B*STARDS!!!!
Hey, I was at bin Laden's Bar Mitzvah!!! What's all this SHIITE about him being a moslem?
Incredible trash
I don't know who Seymour Hersh is, or if he wrote what it says there, but there is no lack of antisemitic Jews, and in our Church, when we pray for the salvation of mankind, we make a special prayer for the Jews to be saved from their internal enemies.
Christ will not return if the Jews are eliminated, and some Jews are helping eliminate their own nation, maybe they want this way to prevent the return of Christ, and you should be ashamed to help them by giving voice to such trash.
Not to mention that the whole story make no sense at all.
John
Illuminism & Zionism are the backers of terror
Jews of Medina Executed
This is what happened. The largest force EVER gathered in Arabia (around 50000)assembled against the City State of Medina. The muslims dug a Trench around Medina to protect it on 3 sides. The one side was protected by the walls & houses of the Jews.
The Jews had signed a Treaty with the Prophet that they will not help any of the enemies of the muslims. However during this siege of Medina (lasted about a month?), it was discovered that the Jews had secret meetings with certain enemy leaders & had ripped the Treaty and were going to help the enemy forces to enter Medina through their side of the city. The muslims foiled this plot and a storm routed the beseigers.
The Jews then locked themselves into their fortress (because they knew the game was up) & were beseiged by the muslims for their treachery. After many days they agreed to be Judged by someone of their own choosing. An old friend of theirs called Sa'd. They thought he would be kind to them.
Sa'd Judged the Jews by the Laws of the Torah (Old Testament). He ordered that the men be executed & the women & children be enslaved. The Jews accepted this punishment & did not protest. Only 1 or 2 men saved their lives by becoming muslim.
Muslim historians have stated that had the Jews left their fate to the decision of the Prophet himself, he would have let them all be expelled from Medina as he had done to the other 2 Jewish tribes earlier that had also caused sedition in Medina.
What was that again?
On 29 May, a 63 year old Thai Buddhist had his head sawn off.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/specials/southBlazed/index_jun11.php
What was interesting here though, was there was NO Jews, NO US, NO occupation of any sort. The only thing in common with Nick Berg, Daniel Pearl, Medina etc. was that there WAS Militant Islam and this time, none of the usual excuses to justify barbarism.
So.... Remind me that bit about Islam and beheading? Or was it really a Jew working for Mossad dressed up as a Thai Muslim?
Re: Israeli's pretending to be al Qaeda
Hi
I read your artivle with great interest, and am more than convinced that the whole al Qaeda terrorist group not only began as a CIA funded and trained anti Russian group and moreover that training was almost certainly also provided by the Israelis.
Moreover I truly believe that the notion of al Qaeda is now used as some propogation of the Israeli/USA evil axis. Put simply follow the money. After 911 who has fiscally and politically benefited from the attack? Certainly no Arab states...
The answers are clear, and perhaps even more insidious since the Americans are tentatively moving towards the possibility of suspending their own elections in the event of yet another unspecified 'attack' - in short the USA is not so gently moving to the inexorable military Junta its neocons crave.
One thing, though, with your article, where is the de facto proof of Mossad fighters in Iraq?
I ask because if you have any proof - put it on the net - send it to all the Western News Agencies - lets see these merchants of death put back firmly where they belong - in a War Crimes trial.
Yours hopefully,
Phil Smith
Should distinguish between Zionists and Jew
This article makes sense to me. The Zionists are the only people in this earth who are making use of the war on terror. I tend to believe they are responsible of all the violence.
K A
You Faked the Author's Name
This "article" was not written by Seymour Hersch, as in Seymour Hersch of the New York Times.
Why the fakery?
How bout some facts??
I would feel better about this if you had some actual facts..
Are you kidding
If Seymore Hersh wrote this entry why isn't it in the New Yorker.
I need more proof.
WHAT A LOAD
What a paranoid, lunacy-based, antisemitic piece of junk. Al-Qaeda are radical Islamists, an Islamic mafia. I dobut Sy Hersh wrote this foolishness. He's a lousy, biased reporter, but he's not insane, as must be whoever penned this moronic article.