What is a comfortable distance between your home and the nearest nuclear power station?

Proximity to a mine is really the question. Tailings from the mining process are highly radioactive for ever. Will people in 100, 200 or 500 years know where the tailings are being stored. The future generations are the unmitting victims of our shortsightedness.

This documentary is part of a presentation for Therapists For Social Responsibility in Sacramento, California, on September 11, 2005.

http://sydney.indymedia.org/node/37424

Whatever humans make or do, they also make mistakes. It's an axiom of life. We think we have everything covered but its impossible.

Example: I've been driving on Sydney streets intensely on delivery work for about 4 years now. I am damn good now compared with first year, as long as I don't have a passenger to chat to. I am experienced taxi driver level now seeing stuff a long way ahead, traffic signal patterns and side streets I didn't have a clue about before. It's similar with my pedestrian weaving in the live traffic with bundles in arm. BUT about once a month I make a mistake. Get tired. Vague out. Hum a tune instead of focus. That's a worry. So far so good but its a worry. I have multiple redundancies too and that's what keeps me here. Like when I get tired I say like a rock climber - 'now is the danger time, now is the accidents time'. And other people do stop, do look out too, so far so good.

Billy Joel had a line "We're only human, we're sposed to make mistakes". So I take all that scientific reassurance with some common sense big pinch of salt. If its got people involved it can blow up. You might call it the Kovco Effect. Things do happen but can't happen. They do. That's the real unfair world, not fairy tale land.

Second, the porn links. Milo Dunphy had a strong example of the nasty games the military industrial complex play. When opposing mining of rare earth metals on the Central Coast here in NSW his family started getting unsolicited porn in the mail box. Milo was a pretty strictly brought up Presbyterian from memory or something like that. Anyway it was deliberate interference in the emotional and family life of a serious critic.

That's how weird and desperate the warmongers can be be and so it seems here the nuke addicts as well with those stupid links.

http://whatthepeoplewant.nationalforum.com.au/archives/001431.html

I hadn't until I did some background before helping up at Jabiluka. It's naturally occuring gas in the rock matrix of uranium oxide. It's invisible, tastless, colourless, AND heavier than air. Think about that a moment. It drifts along the troughs and dips. It kills yer too.

Amazing to think the Aborigines called the land up there where uranium ore occurs "sickness country" for thousands of years before anyone invented the periodic table.

That's what radon gas does, more here at the US EPA web site

http://www.epa.gov/radon/

and closer to home

http://forum.serioussticks.com/viewtopic.php?p=1379&sid=2e506182b736c57ace28c9bfa5c3cc16

So you see mining uranium is an occupational health problem too. A serious one just like coal can be.

Here's the problem:

Step 1) Build nuclear reactor miles and miles from anywhere.
Step 2) Build freeways and infrastructure to new location.

Then... People move out there for work. Cut to a few years later and...

Step 3) Everyone's bitching about the reactor in their backyard and its effect on their lives as though they were there first.

It's the same with airports.

Also, power can only be transmitted a finite distance. The further away from the population, the less effective the generation.

We’ve established that uranium is harmful to the ecological world at large, we’ve established it’s more harmful OUT of the ground rather than it is IN. We know there are significant amounts of carbon emissions produced from its extraction. We realise that tailings dams within Australia are poor at best, prone to leaks, not up to standards, and have led to the unreported (avoidable) poisoning of multiple indigenous communities. We realise that nuclear power will not be available until its too late, given we have around 20 years left to act on climate change and they take a minimum of 10 years to set up..

Someone has attempted to undermine renewable’s as ‘the’ answer, and yet claim; ‘Unfortunately, this is an area everyone seems to have an opinion yet nearly nobody seems to have all the facts at hand.’ I ask, are these facts enough to rule out Nukes? It doesn’t matter it people want to live near it or not. It doesn’t matter if its expensive or not. It doesn’t matter if renewables produce what is a comparatively low level of pollution.. As aforementioned

this "answer" will probably be required within the next decade Climate change is happening, renewable’s have to be the answer. Moreover NUKES are not the answer ( on top of all this think nuclear fuel cycle and waste sites, and selling uranium to non-NPT countries) ..

Dear all,

See David Bradbury's Blowin' in the Wind.

Screening
details:

NEWTOWN - SAT JULY 15
Newtown Neighbourhood Centre,
$12/$8 ($20 solidarity)

KATOOMBA - MON JULY 17
7.30pm, Tris
Elies Night Club, $10/$5 ($15 solidarity)

PARRAMATTA - THURS JULY
27
6.30pm, Parramatta Town Hall, $12/$8 ($20 solidarity)

Please
put these in your diary now. You can come to as many screenings as you'd like
(and you only need pay once).

Please forward the details to any relevant
lists that you're on, be prepared for helping publicise the film where you're
able and let me know if you need a PDF file for printing original copies of the
publicity material (e.g. for work noticeboards, etc), ph 9690 1977.

Ignore this bit: ``You can come to as many screenings as you'd like
(and you only need pay once)'' because it is not the case, at least for the Katoomba showing.

For those in favour of nuclear energy in Australia, at least consider that it is a relatively short-term option. I've heard that the lifetime of a nuclear power facility is around 25 years. It seems to me as though the current energy dilemma would just be delayed another generation. The fact that we don't yet have the technology to make renewable energy sources a viable option doesn't mean we should rule it out. It means the government should be spending more money on research into it.

I think that the major consideration that is missing here, is the idea of using LESS energy in the first place.  Sure I acknowlege that it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to convince enough people to do this, but I think nevertheless that this is 'The Answer' that we are all looking for, but perhaps too greedy to see?

What does everyone else think?

Grazie for the comments above. I do not know very much about this myself. I am learning. I think I would feel very uneasy though, living close to a nuclear power station or a uranium mine. I think perhaps Queensland is the best place for these things! 

One Astronomical Unit is a good safe distance I think.

So the Seppo's and the Canberran Gallahs have slipped the battlers a raw prawn.  Bloody marvelous.  Hoicked out of the land of the rising tomato, the Philippines, and the better half of the yankee continent they've decided to hoof it here with their lame-brained, lairy, depleted uranium, gizmo death toys. 

Bonsai Howard, Bush's midget underling, has pinched the top paddock!  Even worse he's swapped the never never for a flea circus worth of scratchies from Uncle Scam.

Yep, whacked the North Island on the never never plan so that the USSA can use our camp for "weapons Training" for 20 years, which is a poofteenth of how long the place is going to glow like Chernobyl (DU has a half-life of 4, 500 000 000 years).  You may think you'll never never glow if you never never go, but 4.5billion years is a long time for the wind to be still.

Take your claggy eyes off the idiot box and that whore in the anchor-man's disguise and have a squiz at the strewth, this acid is ridgy didge, fresh from the drum.  Ten to one you'd sooner chew the fat than have your ear chewed off so I'll toss you the quicksmart so you can get back to ignawing the gristle.

The duck's guts is this..........current Prime Minister Fudd has done the dirty on your ankle biters' future seed. 

Bet you haven't shone your lamps on the countless limbless, cyclopean, skinless, eyeless.....even headless nippers that the poor preggas sheilas have been bearing over in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kossivo....nah..naturally you've been watching the opiate strobe- CBNCNNCBS...

Rather than ask: is it a boy/girl they just want to know if it's normal.........

Deformed tin-lids like these haven't been borne since they did atomic testing in the Pacific years ago, when first they opened up the nuclear can of worms.

Well, you'll be stoked to learn that our baby overboard PM has given the Yanks a five finger discount (GSTfree) on our backyard.  You wouldn't be dead for quids, but your kids' kids' kids' might be mutants for a few quid. 

NT.....and Lancelin WA.........and at Shoalwater Bay? QLD, a deformed baby...........an unexpected dividend?  John's agreement with the Seppo's gives them use of our bases and ports, immunity from our laws, and waives environmental impact statements in pristine environments.

Deadset, I'm gonna do me quince.  Howard's made a dog's breakfast of it and it's time to spit the dummy.  Don't know which gumtree you've been up lately but it's time to come back to earth and have a dingo's breakfast.

Don't know which gumtree you've been up lately but it's time to come back to earth and have a dingo's breakfast.....that's a piss and a bit of a look around.

Hope the mongrel's chuffed, he's done a wonderful snow job, a few decades as a millionare for yonks and ajax worth of untold suffering for the drongos, the stunned mullets, and even the proper toffs.

Deadset, does Howard fancy himself a big noter surrounded by jelly kneed well wishers who slope off draping their arms behind their clod hoppers!

Does this war criminal think he'll take the icing off the yellow cake and leave us to gawp at him as he racks off, sponging off his handlers. Are we going to have a grizzle, give him a few jibes and give him a pension.....hooroo.  

 Onya!

Fair crack of the whip! 

He's cactus, I'm not going to call it a day, I'm cheesed at this nong, and i kid you not, the prick is a war criminal.....he broke international laws, Australian law, and British laws when he invaded the sovereign nations of Afghanistan and Iraq.  650 000 civilians have karked it over there in his shonky, dodgy egomaniac power grab, and nah sorry mate i don't remember giving you a mandate for that lark you goose.

"honest jon has supported an international terrorist mob, an iffy torture venture from Egypt 2 Guantanamo Bay.

Well I reckon his political juggernaut is ought of rego.  He's been on a warpath, off the beaten track, running down civilisations as though they were roadkill.....and we should give the war crimes court a tingle and show him where to get off........at the Hague....

Book him for wreckless driving, unlicenced use of a political vehicle for crimes against humanity, and for tailgating Bush while racing Phoney tony to the killing fields.  I'm sure we could tee-up a backroom waltz for these 3 stooges.

Like Curly said to Moe......"you're either against em.............or you're with em....

I scrawled it this morning as i was up before a sparrow's fart and there was more to say than do.  I plan to submit it to any local rag that has an editor daft enough to print it.  Can you give us some pointers?

I reckon that the slang puts a polish on the gripe. The Top Brass on the bench will find it easier to breathe through a festy footy sock than blow this poignant humour off through the media's snake-oiled kyber pass. 

Put your cross on every petition you can find and tick the box where it says "larrikans that aren't staunch for a fair go, don't give a brass razoo about the underdog, or that play jump rope for heartless filchers should make tracks"....

Someone's got to take a stand,......... I'm game. 

I don't care to be fair game in this Rafferty's rules, fleece a voter, pull the dags over the nose, blind mans bluff caper they're foisting on the mob........but,  STINKING GREASY.......

C'mon cobbers rattle your dags, stop veging out and sign on..........

before the quill runs out of squidjuice.......and you're left guessing whether the feather would make a better spine than the one you're using to slink about town with now, or if you should just whack it on your basebaaaaaaall cap and swan about like a spruce goose amongst the turnkey turkeys.

If the Lucky Country wants to stay the title, she'll need the good fortune of a few more ballsy pugs to pace the canvas.  So stop slouching on the ropes listening for the final ring hoping you can slope off and still hold the eye of a digger next ANZAC Day. 

Get off your date, activate your right to demand your representatives act in the best interests of the people who supposedly elected them, and in accordance with the universal code of high ethics.

Here's an email: bphrisky@yahoo.com.au

Don't be a whelk.  leave that shell in your silver trail.

c'mon slugger.......don't be a sluggard.

Actually the accident in Chernobyl in Russia reported no ill effects in animal or human population after the accident & this was documented, I dont know about 5 mile island in America though there could have been a cover up there.

It has been said that in 1000 million years our sun will stop shining & it will die in its own nuclear meltdown now thats a Chernobyl to be really worried about. And it has been said that nuclear power needs to be put on the shelf & studied alot more maybe used for space travel to forign worlds & used in terraforming suitable forign planets for human habitation. Hydrogen fuel power will most likely be the future, like  hydrogen fuel cells which only make water as a exhaust compound.

In the mean time there needs to be no flights into outer space by the americans or russians or anybody else this field though can be studied & researched in universities though.