The Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Growing?

Penguins, Antarctica

The climate change deniers never miss a chance to tell us that research
is showing the Antarctic ice sheet is actually growing. That sounds
like the total amount of ice is increasing and things are just
fine......the globe isn't heating up if it's not happening
there......right?

That IS enough to make some people disbelieve the climate scientists
because, after all, no one wants to think the climate is going to
steadily get worse. We all secretly hope that the deniers are right.

Yes, the Antarctic ice sheet is growing in height in the central
region, but making just that one point is very misleading and quite
dishonest.

There is an enormous amount of research that has been conducted on the
poles and there is much more to the story than just the increase in
snow in the middle of the continent. Indeed the coast is where the real
action is.

The leading U.S. climate scientist Dr. James Hansen responded via email
saying "The most precise data on the mass of the ice sheets, from the
gravity satellite, show that, overall, Antarctica is losing mass, as is
Greenland, even though East Antarctica is gaining a small amount of
mass."

"All of the models, and the observations, have the central parts of
Greenland and Antarctica growing faster because of global warming. This
is a consequence of warmer air holding more moisture, thus increasing
snowfall. But the net effect of warming on both continental ice sheets
is mass loss, the increased melting being a larger effect than the
increased snowfall.

He also said "The fact that West Antarctica is shedding mass at a
substantial rate, even though there is only small warming of
surrounding sea surface temperatures, is a telling fact in my opinion,
and a likely consequence of the warming ocean at depth, which affects
the ice shelves that buttress West Antarctica, as discussed in our
paper "Dangerous human-made interference with climate: a GISS modelE
study."" [1]

APPLES AND ORANGES

But the reason that the North Pole is melting so much faster (last
years summer minimum shattering the previous record of 2005) than the
South Pole is very easy to understand.

The South Polar Ice Sheet is two miles thick. That means that the ice
is at an altitude of over ten thousand feet where the temperature is
much colder than a mere six or so feet as at the North Pole. This makes
it impossible for the slight rise in global mean temperature to have
any affect at all in the south accept around the edges of the
continent.

Also, it sits on a continent rather than on water that is above
freezing - as in the north. The ice in the north is an average of 6 to
12 feet thick and is being warmed from beneath as well as above. This
has a much larger impact on the North Polar Ice Cap.

Dr. Hansen also pointed out that the ozone hole (the portion of the
lowest ozone being roughly the size of the Antarctic ice sheet) is
letting more heat escape into the atmosphere as the ozone is a
greenhouse gas. [2]

The South Pole is quite literally the coldest place on Earth, and it
always will be much colder than the North Pole no matter how much
global warming occurs. The Greenland Ice Sheet is very similar to the
South Pole and the research shows that it, too, is melting at an
accelerated pace around the edges.

"....between 1996 and 2005, they detected a widespread glacier
acceleration and consequently an increased rate of ice discharge from
the Greenland ice sheet," write three climate scientists in an article
for RealClimate.org of research published after the Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report was written. [3]

It would seem that the north and south poles should react the same, but
because of these gigantic differences they cannot. Antarctica is not
the canary in the mine..........the canary is the Arctic, and it's
telling the scientists that things are changing faster than they had
thought possible.

Don Beck

Antarctic Ice

1] Dangerous human-made interference with climate: a GISS modelE study
http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/7/2287/2007/acp-7-2287-2007.pdf

2] 2007 Ozone Hole 'Smaller Than Usual', 10/4/07
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071003100537.htm

3] The Greenland Ice,3/2/06
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=267

Here is a another article about the power of the oceans on the climate.
Think Not 'Global' Warming - Think 'Oceans' Warming
http://sydney.indymedia.org.au/story/think-not-global-warming-think-oceans-warming


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Re: The Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Growing?

For you people downunder, the Antarctic ice sheet is an average of 1.6 K thick (1 mile).  Although a recent ice core was drilled in the central region at a depth of 3.2 K.

 

Large areas of the Arctic ice are only one meter thick this year (summer 2007) equating to an approximate 50% thinning compared to 2001. The ice was three meters thick in the 50s.

 

To the Sydney IMCistas - thank you very much for adding the great pix to my posts.  I really appreciate that, it is a nice touch. Where do you get them?


Google images!

I found that one on Google Images. If you've never looked at Google Images, you should - they're great.

Re: Google images!

you wanna make sure you're safe from copyright infingement when you do
that. Creative commons has a free content search for that kind of thing
which might be safer from law suits.

Google

Is Google worrying about copyright when they publish these images from
all over the web? It was my understanding it's an automatic thing - ie
no humans are checking if these images are copyright. If there is a
complaint we can just delete them, can't we?

Re: The Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Growing?

WOW!!!

 

That is fabulous!

 

Again, thank you very much guys. 


The Big Meltdown in Antarctica

The Australian has an excellent article on this today:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23048813-601,00.html 


Funny The Oz paper version doesn't carry it

It's not in my edition of the paper best I can tell. Not World section or news section. Maybe tomorrow 15th Jan?

This is something of a media watch story in itself. The Oz have been the most anti action on climate change, not least their fossil fool industry 'special advertising reports' for all things mining coal and oil.

This is a serious enough and detailed story to run in their press pages. But it didn't make the cut? Mmm. 


Re: Funny The Oz paper version doesn't carry it

Thank you very much! I don't usually get compliments from readers. Usually only the deniers will take the time to criticise and call me names.

 

It is appreciated very much. 


West Antarctic Ice Sheet

Hey, this is a worry. Check out the graben.

West Antarctic Ice Sheet 


The graben?

The graben is doing what it always does, sitting above the lithosphere!

Re: The graben?

And?

 

Can you tell us what that means, please? I don't know graben from schmaben,

or the lithosphere from a brick. 


Ignorance is bliss

......believe me! It's too technical.

Re: The Antarctic Ice Sheet Is Growing?

Tell us more about the graben, please.

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