Burning a US flag is freedom of speech in the USA but not Hyde Park, Sydney CBD?
How
is it that a protester, as reported in many places including on abc tv
news tonight was monstered by under cover police for trying to burn a
US flag in Hyde Park North.
I don't think bushfire restrictions would explain it.
I know its a constitutionally guaranteed right of free speech in the USA to do that - rude but still a right.
Was it an APEC declared or restricted zone in Hyde Park North? Or some other APEC special power?
Were they breaking any law at all?
Was
it in fact a wrongful arrest, an assualt and false imprisonment? Was it
indeed a financial compensation case for police brutality waiting to be
made?
Mmm. All interesting grist.
But what strikes me most
is burning a flag - and get this even an Australian flag as rude as it
might be - in general has never been an illegal act.
Yet there were these undercover policemen and women protecting us from democracy?
I'm
really not comfortable with this. It does call up the need for a
special inquiry and review into just how this whole thing was done by
the security agencies. Exhibit no. 1 - vain old man John Howard
ordering APEC be held in Sydney.
Shameful wastage and criminal
exposure of Sydney to real terrorism targetting, nothing to do with
civil society rallies or marches.
Howard has abrogated his
right to be PM, the same way he refused to walk across the Harbour
Bridge. He can't win a federal election, and he can't stop an
annihilation in the vote either. Surely the Liberal National Party see
that now - just listen to Andrew Bolt on Insiders this morning.
You can't win a federal election with Piers Akerman and Alan Jones. No way. Get real.
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Re: Burning a US flag is freedom of speech in the USA but not Hy
Its very concerning indeed.
But if we are to look historically, it is traditional to burn an old flag before replacing it with a new one. In fact, its a respectful way to get rid of the old flag. Hahahaha
Burning a US flag / Burning US Currency
For the record, i was there when this clown was 'burning' the flag ... In fact, he didn't burn much at all because the flag was a cheap polyester one that only melted, and required huge ammounts of zippo fluid to do even that.
In general, i like the american flag and what it has stood for in the past- i don't much like what the currency does- that's why i stepping in wearing my 'billionaires for bush' outfit to diffuse the situation. I burned a single US dollar bill, and spent the rest of the day thinking that i shold have sorted this f*ckwit out myself rather than letting the police do it.
i didn't want idiots like this spoiling the protest for everyone else, and giving the conservative press more grist for their mill. The same of course goes for the guy that was throwing darts at the cops, and who when approached clobberd a cop with a tire iron that he had concealed in this jacket sleeve.
Re: Burning a US flag / Burning US Currency
lol, that fuk wit??? wana meet up so u can sort me out...
btw i only burnt that one flag that day, big over the net why didnt you try stop me during the day.
im not breaking the law by burning the american flag. i dont like there government, and thats what i think the american flag represents today
Well as I said very rude, pollie blinkers work excellent too!
I mean Woody Guthrie loved that flag no doubt as a lefty and maybe others like Pete Seeger. It's a big place with diverse people. But the point stands - its a constitutional right over there and US Supreme Court decisions to that effect if my understanding is correct.
As for the dart and iron bar incident - same alleged criminal apparently. As I said the police get a high status career to deal with bad ones like that. But yes it was a shameful act of violence on that policeman and to be condemned.
Only it had no representative status or authorisation and if there is one violent protester there is one or more criminal coppers. It should be treated as a fringe not leading the bulletins or woven into moral fabric like soon ex PM Howard is trying to do at the APEC staff function today.
How pathetic. Ignoring 200 police with malice aforethought in their minds as pictured on page 7 of the Sydney Morning Herald today but talking up one criminal assault that everyone condemns anyway marchers and police alike.
Aren't politicians just congenitally sleazy like that? So selective, so disingenuous, so hypocritical not least on the issue of political violence. Don't start me on violent loggers, Howard has blinkers about that too.
Re: Burning a US flag is freedom of speech in the USA but not Hy
I've heard that the one who burned the us flag will stay a little while in prison for what he done... He instigated to non-patriotism...
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