How Iran would retaliate if it comes to war . Why Bush is now on the run. US Aircraft carriers would be coffin ships?

Quote: Peterson Christian Science Monitor: "Iran has honed a swarming tactic, in which small and lightly armed speedboats come at far larger warships from different directions. A classified Pentagon war game in 2002 simulated just such an attack and in it the Navy lost 16 major warships.. "The sheer numbers involved overloaded their ability, both mentally and electronically, to handle the attack," .."a retired Marine Corps officer who commanded the swarming force, .."The whole thing was over in five, maybe 10 minutes."

And that is just on the sea .

Amongst all the other normal U$ "war against terror" bullshit propaganda ,the Christian Science Reporter Scott Peterson discusses how Iran can look after its
own interests.

'But nearby US forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Gulf
provide a host of targets. Iran claimed last October that it
could rain down 11,000 rockets upon "the enemy" within one
minute of an attack and that rate "would continue."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0620/p07s04-wome.html?page=2

 

In a real gulf war against Iran .Should Iran now possess uranium tipped and thermobaric weapons , any ships trapped and attempting to escape through the narrow straits out of the initial gulf slaughterhouse would be trapped like rats on a sinking ship at the narrow straits.

Wikipedia says: "It is thought that between 17 and 20 states have weapons incorporating depleted uranium in their arsenals. They include the U.S., the UK, France, Russia, China, Taiwan, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Egypt, Kuwait, Pakistan, Thailand, Iraq and Taiwan. DU ammunition is manufactured in 18 countries. Only the US and the UK have acknowledged using DU weapons.[22]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium


It is noticeable that neither Iran or nth Korea or Syria, the so-called "axis of evil" countries appear on that current Wikipedia "haves" list.

National emergency.

So,what prompted a shocked Bush to declare a "national emergency' AFTER he received a list from Nth Korea detailing its nuclear activities and thanked Nth Korea POLITELY ?

Then skedadled back to the whitehouse "and I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat"

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/06/20080626-4.html

 

And then change his tone on Iran .Even calling on the Israelis to exercise restraint on the much threatened attack on Iran?

Something had put the fear of god into Bush and made him shit in his pants in panic ?

For warfare depleted uranium is enormously 'efficient' as the following newspaper report illustrates from the Dessert Storm war in 1991.
American pilots bombing and strafing, with depleted uranium weapons, helpless retreating Iraqi soldiers who had already surrendered, exclaimed:
"We toasted him.... we hit the jackpot....a turkey shoot....shooting fish in a barrel....basically just sitting ducks... There's just nothing like it. It's the biggest Fourth of July show you've ever seen, and to see those tanks just 'boom', and more stuff just keeps spewing out of them... they just become white hot. It's wonderful."
(L A Times and Washington Post, both February 27, 1991)

http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/depleted_uranium.html

 

Ammunition
'Most military use of depleted uranium has been as 30 mm caliber ordnance, primarily the 30 mm PGU-14/B armour-piercing incendiary round from the GAU-8 Avenger cannon of the A-10 Thunderbolt II used by the U.S. Air Force and M230 of the AH-64 Apache Helicopter used by the United States Army. Another common use of DU is 120mm Sabot Rounds fired from the M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams.[20] 25 mm DU rounds have been used in the M242 gun mounted on the U.S. Army's Bradley Fighting Vehicle and LAV-AT. The U.S. Marine Corps uses DU in the 25 mm PGU-20 round fired by the GAU-12 Equalizer cannon of the AV-8B Harrier, and also in the 20 mm M197 gun mounted on AH-1 helicopter gunships. The US Navy's Phalanx CIWS's M61 Vulcan gatling gun used 20 mm armor-piercing penetrator rounds with discarding plastic sabots which were made using depleted uranium, later changed to tungsten."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium#Ammunition

Iranian Uranium metal tipped weapons big or small apparently whether also "enriched" " or "depleted" or not, delivered from land or sea could slice through these US ships like a knife through butter at perhaps 5000 degrees of explosive heat in confined spaces.

On Uranium tipped weapons and many missiles see .

http://canarias.indymedia.org/newswire/display/16191/index.

php

 

Natural uranium contains 99.3% of the non-fissionable form of uranium U238, and 0.7% of the fissionable isotope U235. In principle it is only the rare isotope U235 of uranium that gets burned up in the nuclear power reactors and in atom bombs. The remaining 99.3% of the natural uranium (the U238) remains unaffected.
The fissionable isotope U235 is unique in that it unstable and emits three neutron particles when it breaks up. The break-up can be enhanced when the unstable atom is poked at with a neuron particles. When it fissions and spits apart, it leaves behind a concoction of broken parts (fission products) that become unstable elements in turn, some of which are up to 100,000 times more radioactive than uranium is. (see more)

"The 0.7% of U235 provides neutron radiation that is rich enough in its natural concentration to power a nuclear power reactors moderated by heavy water or graphite. Modern light water reactors, however, which are are more efficient and less expensive to build, but require enriched fuel in the 3% range of U235 concentration. The residue of the enrichment process is called 'depleted uranium. ..

Depleted uranium (DU) is ideal in military applications for two of physical properties of uranium that are unique to uranium as a metal. One is that the metal it is extremely heavy and extremely dense. It is thereby able to penetrate the armor of tanks or thick slabs of concrete like cutting through a block of butter with a hot knife. And it really does become a hot knife in the process. It becomes enormously heated by friction as it penetrates the barriers."

http://members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/depleted_uranium.html

So, That's the weapons made from the depleted uranium stuff.

But ,this writer is by no means an expert or pretends to really understands this nuclear stuff . All I understand or grasp is that is extremely hot thermobaric weapons wouldn't mix well with ships and enclosed spaces with compartmentalised bulkheads.

Thermobaric weapons :
So think of their effect on the empire ships not just enclosed on spaces like buildings or Bora Bora caves.

Alright ,that's just the super hot uranium tips in addition :
Does Iran now not only have uranium tipped weapons and have also have aluminium powder thermobaric weapons technology too?

Thermobaric weapons.
"When the American military bought them in 2005, President George W Bush said:
"There are going to be some awfully surprised terrorists when the thermobaric
Hellfire comes knocking."
Despite the Bush rhetoric, it is unlikely anyone targeted by the missile would
know much about it. The laser-guided missile has a warhead packed with
fluorinated aluminium powder surrounding a small charge.
When it hits the target, the charge disperses the aluminium powder throughout
the target building. The cloud then ignites, causing a massive secondary blast
that tears throughout any enclosed space.
The blast creates a vacuum which draws air and debris back in, creating pressure
of up to 430lb per sq in. The more heavily the building is protected, the more
concentrated the blast.
The cloud of burning aluminium powder means victims often die from asphyxiation
before the pressure shreds their organs.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4187835.ece

 


Are the days of gunboat diplomacy and seaborne power empires about to come to a close?

Want to join the imperialist navy?
This real world military reality, is why patriotic high amerikan military war leaders like sacked admiral Fallon and even many in the CIA are in quite revolt against Bush/Cheney/Israeli plans to attack Iran as religious crazy.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pentagon-opposes-iran-attack/2008/07/03/1214950950417.html

 

Perhaps we will soon see the end of colonialist and imperialist gun boat diplomacy backed by superior power based on Empire sea power.Its passed its use by date.

Psychologically ;
The American public has had enough already of costly wars for lies and continuing endless miltary grind downs . It already considers 4500 of its own military dead as too high a price to fight for lies. Many of its troops are now fuelled by anti-depressants.

The Amerkkkan labour aristocracy loved the appearance of unequal war games in both gulf oil wars 1 and 2. 'Turkey shoots" with few American casualties and wholesale massacres of everybody in their path mainly because of a monopoly of uranium tipped weapons against effectively tin can defences.

Economically:


The message is finally getting through to Bush that a country with bankrupt banks and with its economy already in a spiralling crisis, that is already militarily overstretched on two fronts, is in no fit condition to launch a third war.

Iran is not like an already disarmed Iraq -a turkey shoot- without its own uranium tipped weapons.


Peterson Bluster:
"Iran could disrupt shipping lanes in the Persian
Gulf, its weak economy depends on oil revenues. "He says.

Now, Ask yourself is IRAN the only country depending on oil revenues and imports?
Its a two way street and uranium tipped weapons could flow both ways.

Related middle east :


Israel to UN: Hezbollah has tripled its land-to-sea missile arsenal - Haaretz - Israel
During the war, a C-802 missile struck the INS Hanit off the Lebanese coast, killing four naval servicemen.


The report states that, according to Israel, Hezbollah's long-range missile teams are deployed north of the river, and that "most of the new missiles include [the Iranian-made] Zelzal and Fajr missiles that have a range of over 250 kilometers and are capable of hitting areas south of Tel Aviv."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/918937.html

 

Stop doing thing cruel things to your own uranium.. Please.please just let us keep monopoly control the supply of that shit ,kiss our arse and we will take you off our axis evil list and end economic sanctions !

Panic:


TEHRAN, Iran - A package of incentives presented Tuesday to Iran includes a major concession by Washington - an offer to join key European nations in providing some nuclear technology to Tehran if it stops enriching uranium, diplomats said.
The incentives agreed on last week by the United States, Britain, France, China and Russia - the five veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council - plus Germany, also include European offers of help in building nuclear reactors for a peaceful energy program, the diplomats said.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198316,00.html?sPage=fnc/specialsections/lawcenter

 


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Re: How Iran would retaliate . US Aircraft carriers coffins ?

Iran says would strike Israel, US navy if attacked: report

July 8, 2008, 6:47 pm

TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran would attack Israel and the US navy in the Gulf as its first response to any American attack over its nuclear programme, an aide to supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Tuesday.

"The first US shot on Iran would set the United States' vital interests in the world on fire," said Ali Shirazi, a mid-ranking cleric who is Khamenei's representative to the naval forces of the elite Revolutionary Guards.

"Tel Aviv and the US fleet in the Persian Gulf would be the targets that would be set on fire in Iran 's crushing response," he said, according to the Fars news agency.

The United States and its top regional ally Israel have never ruled out attacking Iran over its nuclear drive, which the West fears could be aimed at making nuclear weapons.

It emerged last month that Israel had carried out manoeuvres in Greece that were effectively practice runs for a potential strike against Iranian nuclear facilities.

Shirazi said "the Zionist regime is pressuring the White House leaders to plan a military assault on Iran " and Iran would react "if they commit such a stupidity." 

http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/168863


Re: How Iran would retaliate . US Aircraft carriers coffins ?

Terrible things could happen in the Middle East at any stage. It's very volatile.

Re: How Iran would retaliate . US Aircraft carriers coffins ?

Not quite right pye ,that’s the  worry view from the outside looking in, that things could get worse but not better.

 

 The fact is that terrible things are already happening as that is the current everyday reality.

This will continue as long as US imperialism and its agents can ride roughshod over the people with its weapons monopolies making it difficult to fight back.

 

But, Peoples resistance and fightback are the decisive thing in war not technology the Iraninians may nw  have mastered the war technology of uranium weapons the  Imperialists introduced ,So a bad thing can turn into good thing and it may now trned into a weapon for building  a lasting peace.A ME free from future  imperialist wars based on carrier power.

 

The point of the above is that should the US attempt to make more trouble with more war, it may only be picking up a rock only to drop it on its own feet.

 

Its once terrible ships of empire may prove to be its archiles  heel.Now turned into paper tigers. Would that be a terrible thing for the worlds future?

 

The Iranians will avoid war and seek peace but in the end be forced to fight,it may not be as one sided as Iraq.

  

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